This blog will mostly be interesting to people who are in the entertainment industry or who follow that industry as fans. If the subject matter isn’t interesting to you or doesn’t apply to you, my apologies, but I have something to say that demands to be heard.
The following commentary consists solely of my constitutionally-protected opinion and the actual redacted emails of my now-former publicist, one Tom Estey. It is my opinion that he doesn’t want you to see what is below, and I have been made aware that he has apparently been calling threatening lawsuits.
A lawsuit would mean that Mr. Estey would have to go to court and prove that what I am saying is demonstrably not true and that I harbor malice towards him, which I do not. In addition, Mr. Estey should understand that, should he decide to sue for “libel,” I would countersue him and ask him to demonstrate that he adequately performed the services that I paid him to perform. I don’t think he’d want that.
It may surprise you to know that most everyone in the media or entertainment industries employs a publicist. And I am no exception. I have had three different publicists over the last thirteen years.
It is my belief that, when you pay someone multiple thousands of dollars per month to get you media placement, it is their job to either get the desired placement on TV shows, in magazines or in newspapers, or, if that is impossible, to honestly say to the client “Sorry…for whatever reason, I can’t get you the coverage you want. Let’s say we call it a day?” But, in my experience, publicists generally never seem to say that.
Each time I have hired a publicist, I have gotten plenty of action in the beginning, with high-profile interview after high-profile interview, followed by a dropoff as the publicist signs newer, more demanding clients who tend to take more of his time. One thing publicists never seem to do, however, is to step forward and concede that they actually can’t (or won’t) get the job done, for whatever reason. They simply continue invoicing you every month, taking your money and producing less and less until the inevitable “come to Jesus” meeting in which things get ugly.
Some people apparently think I’m just stupid or reckless. I am not. This blog contains absolutely no libel. Just the actual emails of Tom Estey, with my personal recollections of the results of alleged interviews he had supposedly arranged in his job of keeping my name in the news. Many of you have been asking why my TV appearances recently have sunk to appearing on Fox & Friends in the oh-so-desirable 3:30 AM Pacific timeslot. Good question. I’d like to know the answer to that too!
This is not to say that Mr. Estey never got me any placement at all. I have appeared three times on HLN’s Prime News (which, despite its name, does not appear in prime time!). And I even appeared once on Fox & Friends after the sun came up when I was in New York on a morning in December 2010. But LA daily papers? Forget it. LA Times? Nope. OC Register? Only when I called the columnist, a friend named Gary Lycan. LA Weekly? Uh-uh.
To be fair, until our split, Mr. Estey had a lovely personality and was relatively easy to get along with. Then, when I expressed concern about the number of promised interviews and the total lack of apparent actual follow-through, his demeanor changed dramatically and he wrote the following email (in its entirety):
“Just left you a voicemail. This is bullshit -- simply put.”
So eloquent coming from a man whose continual tweets of Deepak Chopra and cheery inspirational quotes wouldn’t suggest such a mastery of vulgarity.
Take a look at the following actual redacted emails from Mr. Estey, each one followed by my recounting of each outcome. I AM ISSUING THE FOLLOWING CHALLENGE: If any of the purported interviews outlined below ever actually took place and I am wrong, I will pay Mr. Estey $100,000 cash. You tell ME if this is “bullshit.”
3/18/2009 12:41 PM
I just got off the phone with R…n at CBS Sunday Morning and they are doing a segment on "Acclaimed Radio Personalities and What Makes Them Unique". After reviewing the Tenets of Leykis, she was hooked. Thus, she would like to schedule a TAPED on camera interview with you in LA in early-April.
Please advise...
Peace,
Tom Estey
President & Founder
Tom Estey Publicity & Promotion
TJE6464@xxx.com
www.myspace.com/tomestey
508-XXX-XXXX
Obviously, I was very interested. INTERVIEW NEVER HAPPENED.
5/20/09 12:10 PM
Please see below and advise...
This would be for Power Lunch.
Peace,
Tom Estey
President & Founder
Tom Estey Publicity & Promotion
TJE6464@xxx.com
www.myspace.com/tomestey
508-XXX-XXXX
From: J……….n@nbcuni.com
To: TJE6464@xxx.com
Sent: 5/20/2009 3:05:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: RE: CNBC Interview with Tom Leykis
Hi Tom,
Is Tom a liberal? The emphasis is on liberal guests right now.
Regards,
J….t
I am a liberal libertarian. INTERVIEW NEVER HAPPENED.
12/7/2009 12:34 PM
I have obtained an offer for you to be profiled in the April issue (of SUCCESS Magazine).
Thoughts?
Peace,
TOM ESTEY
President & Founder
TOM ESTEY PUBLICITY & PROMOTION
TJE6464@xxx.com
508-XXX-XXXX
www.myspace.com/tomestey
FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER: http://twitter.com/tomestpr
And why not? Sounds great! NEVER DID AN INTERVIEW.
2/1/10 11:34 AM
Please be aware that I have obtained an offer for you to be a panelist on the above referenced show (HLN Issues with Jane Velez-Mitchell). The producer, Axxxe Sxxxxxxn, has agreed to do this via satellite but would like a list from us of current issues that are of interest to you and that you would be most comfortable discussing.
Please advise...
Peace,
TOM ESTEY
President & Founder
TOM ESTEY PUBLICITY & PROMOTION
TJE6464@xxx.com
508-XXX-XXXX
FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER: http://twitter.com/tomestpr
LIST SENT. NO INTERVIEW.
7/29/2010 10:56 AM
Yes, it is real this time. Your "Buzz" profile is set for the October issue of LA Magazine.
Peace and rock on!
TOM ESTEY
President & Founder
TOM ESTEY PUBLICITY & PROMOTION
TJE6464@xxx.com
508-XXX-XXXX
www.myspace.com/tomestey
FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER: http://twitter.com/tomestpr
No, it WASN’T real that time either. INTERVIEW NEVER HAPPENED.
8/4/10 3:46 PM
See below.
YES!!!!!
TOM ESTEY
President & Founder
TOM ESTEY PUBLICITY & PROMOTION
TJE6464@aol.com
508-XXX-XXXX
www.myspace.com/tomestey
FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER: http://twitter.com/tomestpr
From: TMxxxxxxy@wineenthusiast.net
To: TJE6464@xxx.com
Sent: 8/4/2010 5:40:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: RE: Tom Estey here...
Tom,
I have Tom Leykis slated for the November issue (of Wine Enthusiast magazine). I will have the writer and photographer reach out to you directly in the coming weeks.
NO ONE EVER “REACHED OUT.” INTERVIEW NEVER HAPPENED.
8/10/10 11:54 AM
Please see below and advise...
Peace,
Tom Estey
President & Founder
TOM ESTEY PUBLICITY & PROMOTION
TJE6464@xxx.com
508-XXX-XXXX
www.myspace.com/tomestey
From: IXXn.XXXXs@abc.com
To: TJE6464@xxx.com
Sent: 8/10/2009 2:51:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: RE: Tom Leykis
Hi Tom- thanks for your prompt response. I work for ABC News “20/20” with John Stossel and Elizabeth Vargas. I am producing a story on Abused Men, tentatively called, “The Other Side of Domestic Violence.” I recently heard a 3 part radio program on the Tom Leykis show which I believe aired in March of this year about the subject of domestic violence against men. I’d like to know whether or not I can speak with Tom Leykis about the topic, the responses his program received, the guests, etc. and also any referrals he or his production team may have to possible organizations and/or people they spoke with for the radio show. I need to find characters for my piece who have compelling stories and would like to share them with 20/20. The Tom Leykis show was very informative, the guests were knowledgeable and the callers-in were fired up. Over all, I am hoping I can tap into some of that energy for my piece. Tom’s commentary would be particularly good, in that he is a great talker and may make some good comments on the subject of male domestic violence, having hosted a show on it. Please let me know if we can speak further about this and the possibility of Tom’s participation in the TV piece. I can be reached via email at i……..s@abc.com or by phone at (212) XXX-XXXX
Love people and not things, use things and not people.
xxx Columbus Avenue, Xth floor
212-xxx-xxxx
20/20? Absolutely I was interested! Bring it on! NEVER HAPPENED.
9/21/10 12:06 PM
We got a half-page profile (in the LA Weekly) in support of New Normal Music. Gxxxxxo (music editor) is assigning a writer -- most likely a photographer as well.
Peace,
TOM ESTEY
President & Founder
TOM ESTEY PUBLICITY & PROMOTION
TJE6464@xxx.com
508-XXX-XXXX
www.myspace.com/tomestey
Five months later, NOTHING.
9/28/10 11:37 AM
The new national daytime TV show, "The Talk", would like to book you in late-October. The show debuts on October 11th in 100 percent of the country hosted by Sharon Osborne, Holly Robinson Peete, Julie Cheng and Leah Remini. This would be a sitdown interview only with a focus on The Tenets of Leykis (they will promote New Normal, etc. as well).
Are there dates in late-October that you are not available? Please advise...
The show is based in LA.
Peace,
TOM ESTEY
President & Founder
TOM ESTEY PUBLICITY & PROMOTION
TJE6464@xxx.com
508-XXX-XXXX
www.myspace.com/tomestey
FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER: http://twitter.com/tomestpr
A PERFECT place for me to appear. I had open dates in October, November, December, January and February. “They would like to book you.” Maybe they WOULD like to...but they NEVER DID!
10/5/10 6:44 PM
See below...
YES!!!!
TOM ESTEY
President & Founder
TOM ESTEY PUBLICITY & PROMOTION
TJE6464@xxx.com
508-XXX-XXXX
www.myspace.com/tomestey
FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER: http://twitter.com/tomestpr
From: kxxe.n.kxxxxr@aexp.com
To: TJE6464@aol.com
Sent: 10/5/2010 5:54:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: Re: Tom Leykis
hi tom.. i'm so sorry i'm so hard to get in touch with. We're doing
a profile on Tom in our january issue (of Food & Wine magazine). We will get back to you with what we need. best, kxxe
The January issue went to bed about three months ago. No interview. NOTHING.
12/3/2010 6:18 AM
David Hinckley (NY Daily News) has agreed to a profile on you in support of all your new ventures. He is out of the office and having surgery but will be back on January 4th. I will call him at that time to schedule.
Peace,
TOM ESTEY
President & Founder
TOM ESTEY PUBLICITY & PROMOTION
TJE6464@xxx.com
508-XXX-XXXX
www.myspace.com/tomestey
FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER: http://twitter.com/tomestpr
Mr. Hinckley returned from surgery. Has written many columns. No interview. NOTHING HAPPENED. NOTHING SCHEDULED
I could go on and on about this, but I would rather know your opinion about this subject and the apparent performance of Mr. Estey. I would be more than happy to publish his side of the story. All he has to do is to ask. Should I have cut him loose long ago? Maybe. But should he have told me if getting me media placement was difficult or impossible? I think so.
What do you think?
Tom (the fraud ) Estey
Tom i have also used Tom Estey and he really committed fraud and i have proof . Same as you if he would like to sue me for libel. I would welcome it matter of fact i am getting ready to sue him for fraud. I have sent you copies of two e-mails one of which Tom Estey sent me stating i was to do a tapping of the better show. the second e-mail was from the better show after someone brought your article to my attention. And the better show say's they never had me booked he also did the same with the Joy Behar show.Even after the show was cancelled. He still sent me e-mails to get him my thoughts on the Oscars to be a panelist on the show. He is a liar and a fraud. And i am saying that because i have proof. It is hard enough trying to make it in this business, without someone like this who promises t.v. shows. So he can take my money. I even borrowed money the last month because i wanted to make sure i would be on those shows. I had to suffer because of this fraud. If you need to contact me you can go to Bobbyhaha.com
Thanks
bobby Haha
got screwed by Mr. Estey too
For fear of any retaliation coming back on me, I won't give my name but I too was F.CKED by Tom Estey...SAME EXACT STORY---They would like to book you---and EVERY TIME, excuse after excuse after excuse. I will NEVER EVER in a million years use him again. My wife tried to warn me but I was too dumb to see it because some "things" did happen...just not what was apparently supposed to happen after getting "confirmation" in his emails...It's ridiculous and this guy needs to be stopped. I'm sure he does a great job for his big clients that he doesn't have to work that hard for...However, for the smaller guys/gals, he has clearly screwed us all...It's very sad.
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I had a dream to begin my company, but I did not earn enough amount of money to do that. Thank God my close dude said to use the loan. Thus I received the consolidation loans and made real my dream.
The PR Guy
I feel sorry for the guy because he shows signs of drug addiction. All up and full of ideas but not able to follow-thru.
Tom Estey
Mr Leykis, you must be the very soul of kindness and compassion to put up with
Mr Estey for as long as you did, how you kept yourself from choking him out proves
you are nothing but a big old slow to anger pussy :) You are right to expose him for
a do - nothing, in my opinion.
Kind regards,
Thremnir
Publicist
Tom you're a master of Zen, holding your temper with this loser for so long...
one month without a noticible publication and I'd clip that a-hole!
Tom Estey
Yes, I am late to this post.
I noticed in your posting of his signatures that his website was www.myspace.com/tomestey...Really Tom? I have been listening to you for years and took you to be a bit smarter than your average "show host."
You did business with a "company" that did not even have is own $100.00 web site?
Let me quote from your foreclosure headline. "You got what you deserve."
Sorry Tom.
By the way, I have an Uncle who is a deposed Libyan government agent in charge of Gaddafi's fortune and would like to share it with you....lol
Tom Estey
Tom Estey's actions are a reflection of his character.
He F&@@ed himself out of a job, and now others will see him for what he is.
Blow me up Tom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
El Stroko ...
Tom -
Surely you are aware that this guy's act is analogous to that of the "fluffer" in the porn industry. Perhaps his sign-off is actually "piece" and you are it!
Looking forward to your return to the airwaves.
Tom you need a refresher......
from your old radio shows.
What were you thinking?
An old adage FUCK me once shame on you....Fuck me twice shame on ME
You sure he isn't a chick? Because that's how they clean out men's bank accounts
You are better than that....
Again,
Michael Kimball
Haverhill, MA
Tom, It just goes to show
Tom,
It just goes to show you.......you can take the trash out of the tralier, but you can't take the trailer out of the trash.
Can't wait until you're back on the radio!
Estey
Sounds like lies, tap dancing, or total lack of follow through.
Like a therapist, often the "client" knows best when they have out grown the healer.
To do the publicist job properly one needs an indestructible ego.
This does not go hand in hand with admitting failure.
If he can not produce proof of the actual contacts he emailed about,
then his emails were pure fabrication and depending on the contract you signed he may be liable to paying back his fee. I would have one of your many attorneys check the written word and see if it is a case or not. In fact, you should be able to read the employment agreement and get an idea if there is a hope or not before spending even more money on the subject needlessly.
You are not to blame, but are a man of habit, doing the same thing, over and over does not produce a different result. Look for a new way to get promoted. After all YOU are a promotion genius!
Your actions give away that you are either, a patient and understanding man, or too busy to over see day to day, and need a personal assistant, who you can dictate all the things you think about doing, but just do not get to, because life gets in the way. A few manpower dollars spent can save millions and your lowered stress level will make you face the sunrise saying, “god I love spending money on this personal assistant, really worth every penny.” Hire a detailed oriented person who actually follows directions and has the brain to work without permission to fart.
Love you and your daily dilemmas; it is the details that make you more interesting than anyone else. I miss you. B
Mr. Estey sounds like a waste of human skin...
Typical LA full-of-bs scammer.. That's why never trust people in LA, well only select few.
Sorry to hear about that sleazy lying scum.. He really does sound like a douche bag, who would use that email signature?
"Peace and rock on!"
This is a grown man?
Anyways, maybe you can have a slurping-douche sound on your new radio show.. Take me out Estey Douche bag style..
I've been listening to 8 gigs of old Tom Leykis episodes and it's great, it's like listening to Tom all over again. I'm glad you didn't base your episodes off news and current events and more on subjects that always stay interesting. I'm trying to get that 6 figure salary before you start your new show, working my butt off and listening to Tom Leykis episodes.
PR folks suck.
PR folks suck. i repeat: PR folks suck.
As much as they're the biggest bullshit artists around, it's much, much worse when they promise you stuff, fail to live up to expectations, and when they get cut, they threaten to SUE you.
Douchebags. I wouldn't trust them to do my groceries.
And yet he sends his e-mails with words ending in "peace."
Pussy. Hypocritical Pussy; how can you have peace when shit isn't getting done?
It's sort of like the entertainment industry in general; if you sign with a record label, TV network, or some movie, someone is going to either take all your money or never give you the time of day in the future. Or both.
I don't see any difference between these guys. They're all schmucks.
Good stuff, Tom. BTW: have you thought of getting PR people who you can trust?
For Future Reference
Tom, I can't believe you didn't spot this "tool" from the beginning. Any professional who uses the letter ending "peace" is a total douchebag. I've been in business for 20 years and would certainly question their professionalism.
Can't wait to hear you on the Radio or ? again.
Jim M
You got scammed.
Tom,
What the fuck, man? How stupid do you have to be to keep paying after a one or two blunders?
Next you'll be sending money to Nigerian princes.
Come on Tom... Come on.
Christ.
You should have been his easiest client
It would seem you could have done better to make the calls yourself. Any fool would know you never piss off a radio guy. Radio hosts are on "everyday" and can even give a PR guy PR himself !
He knew you would be on ice for this while and should have kept your name out there. Its not rocket science. So many news and talk shows on so many channels, all needing content.
Would be like fishing in a barrel to get a guy like yourself who has definite opinions on programs from time to time.
TOM ESTEY SCAM
Tom, I cannot believe I found your blog, but I paid Tom Estey for a year and a half and the SAME THING happened to me. He nearly ruined my business. He told me that he got me booked as a paid regular on Better TV . He kept saying for 7 months the contract was coming - he even told me how much they were going to pay. He told me the person he was dealing with at Better Tv. I called her and she said she had no idea what I was talking about and that they don't even hire freelance reporters. In the meantime, I turned down a great deal with another media company. He told me I had a concise profile feature in a few different magazines, including Complete Woman Magazine. I called the magazine and found out I never had a profile. Tom told me it actually came out in November and he was waiting for a copy.... Boy that is pretty nervey to out and out just lie like that. So unethical. At the time I was not making much money with my new company and basically threw that monthly retainer fee in the trash - just thinking he was working to help spread the work about my business. I then started calling all my contacts to find out EVERYTHING he told me was a lie. I was devastated that someone could do this to me. He is obviously doing this to a lot of his clients. How long will it take them to find out? He even toldl me that a huge literary agent was interested in my writing for children. So I hustled to finish my children's book only to find out they don't even market children's books. Unbelievable..... Im sorry to hear this happened to you as well.
Tom Estey
I would say to Estey the following- Look Estey nothing you have arranged has happened. From today on, you will supply my new assistant with the same information you have forwarded to me. She/He will verify it. If its bogus, the cost for the assistant's time is deducted from your bill. If the arrangement for the appearance,
show or whatever materializes there is no cost deducted fron your bill.
If Estey agrees, look for an intern as the assistant, anyone would jump high for that opportunity.
Lastly, when dealing with anyone who you pay, remember Don't expect what you don't inspect.
T.M.
PR:
Too bad. Should have fired him sooner. And we missed out on some possible great interviews and opinions. Oh, and remind me not to upset you. :)
PR is like a new date?
Been listening to Tom since he was on KFI. If this waa a date, 3 times and out of there. Sounds like you got screwed for a long time.
Only a few short 400 days left to wait....
Always hold the flame to his feet!
When I pay a retainer for this kind of service, I make sure to keep them under pressure all the time. If I don't see some action at least once a week, I let them know I'm not happy. If I don't receive follow up on a pitch I received, I ask about it. In a perfect world, these things shouldn't be your concern. But when he's slipping up multiple times? What happened to your "3 Strikes" rule?
dwindling appearances
As a fan of yours I know that your dwindling appearances are not due to a lack of public interest. There are plenty of people out there like me who want to see more of you, especially now that you're not dominating afternoon radio anymore.
ripped off
you should have seen the pattern after three mirages. thats when i woulda stopped the check. you were taken by a con man.
The PR Guy
Tom in order to make a fair observation and deduction from this correspondence your responses would be of benefit. The one line statements noted at the end of each email sample are just that. However at the time of each request if your response was "yes", then it would appear that Mr Estey is "slacking".........I tweeted this to you earlier and I will say it again, this guy is a fool if he took money from you and thought that he didn't need to deliver results.
Take me out Tom
@atomdunn
What amazing ineptitude!
What amazing ineptitude! Maybe he can't tell the difference between a query and a commitment. Well, the old joke goes: How do you say 'no' in Hollywood? "Yes."
Would it hurt to keep Tom posted on these possible appearances?
Seriously, is there no sense of professional decorum? Either let him know that these appearances are going down or explain why "all of a sudden" these appearances do not materialize. You job Mr. Etsey is to keep Tom relevant within the eyes of his most passionate fans while engaging and establishing relationships with those who are not aware of Tom and his many ventures (Leykis 101, The Tasting Room, and all things New Normal Network related). If you can not accomplish this feat, then cut ties. If anything, Tom should be charging you for keeping himself relevant through Twitter, Facebook, and Myspace and thereby generating interest through his own efforts which-as it appears- you seem unable to accomplish.
P.R. guy sound like long term girlfriends
By this Iam refering to the fact it all seems nice and well then they demand more from you or demand the same and give less. I am suprised you kept him around for so long after the first 1 or 2 incidents unless you were contractually bound to do as such.
WEAK
Sounds like an intellectual cock-tease who is also taking your money while delivering nothing.
P.R.
A lot of talk, but no action. I think it is called "stringing someone along."
ex publicist
Yeah Tom you should have dumped this guy a long time ago. Of course he would never dare sue you because you would destroy him. It's really hard to believe that he strung you along for this long. It would have been great to see you on any of those shows he promised, especially something like 20/20. I was wondering what the hell you were on FAUX & Friends at 3:30am. I won't even get up that early for you, and I'm a huge fan. Anyway better luck with your next publicist, and as usual you did not disappoint. It was the best thing I read all day. I hope this moron now realizes he should not mess with the professor. Peace
Your PR person needs to be
Your PR person needs to be honest with you. If they can't get placements either because of problems with you or problems with their connections to producers, bookers, talent buyers or whoever, that is something you need to know up front. For, as you said, thousands of dollars a month, they should either do the job or refuse to accept the money because they feel the job is impossible to do.
Sadly, very few people seem to do this. They take the money and do the work and if it works out, or not, well, what can you do?
My story? I hired a PR firm (CyberPR ran by Ariel Hyatt) and promised to land me radio interviews and airplay for my songs. I did get some interviews, but they were mainly with bloggers in their bedrooms in their PJs with BlogTalkRadio.com accounts who were litterally phoning in their shows. They sounded like crap and nobody listened so needless to say, I moved zero copies of my product. Same deal with the "airplay." This was mostly in the form of being included on podcasts that nobody listens to. Did I get on Actual radio stations? No. I was told they Called at least 15 of the stations my press kit had been submitted to but I sincerely doubt they got the kind of follow-up necessary to enter into actual rotation.
At first I just chalked it up to the fact that I'm a brand new recording artist that is virtually unknown but if TOM FREAKIN' LEYKIS can't land a booking, this has got to suggest that maybe, just maybe, many people in PR are Full Of Shit. At this point, I'm leaning heavily toward the latter.
Cut . HIm. Loose.
Anyone that still has an AOL email address and a MySpace account (but no Facebook presence) is not cool. Get someone who's not such a codger.
Tom Estey deserves whatever
Tom Estey deserves whatever he has coming to him. Those emails are a pretty good slate of evidence that he definitely is not performing up to snuff.
Tom Leykis deserves better!
During the times each of
During the times each of these opportunities fell through did you ask him what happened? If so, what was his explanation? Was he making up excuses or blaming it on others?
DTB!
Sometimes it's not a chick. But he does sound like a lazy BITCH!
Way to go Tommy!
Seems to me you should have DUMPED THAT BITCH long ago. . Oh well you live and learn.
Good luck with the next one.
Much Love
S
Just bite the bullet and cave in to Fox Tom
I mean, endorse Michelle Bachman and start saying "nice rack" when you look at those Photoshopped Sarah Palin pics. Stop talking about all the money and potential listener lives being wasted propping up dictators in Iraq and Afghanistan. You do this and I assure you, Fox and Friends will be licking the soles of your shoes for more talking-head time. *I'll* never listen to you again. But hey, there are choices in life.